Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Monterey Bay
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: continuation bets
I really enjoyed reading your sit n go strategies, I'm looking forward to reading the third part. A question came up when you discussed continuation bets.
In small stakes games I often raise pre-flop in position. I miss the flop, and post a continuation bet with over cards or a draw. While the bet is usually enough to drive away other players, sometimes people simply call (rather than re-raise, which I would just fold then). I often catch myself trying to continue to bet them out of the pot on the turn and maybe the river. While I pull it off occasionally, I still feel this move is way too risky. My question is, if my continuation bet is just called, how far should I take it?
If I'm the pre-flop raiser and the flop gives 3 cards that are lower then I make a continuation bet, if I get called then I'll just check on the turn and river assuming neither of these hit me. I have made the mistake before of repeatedly trying to force the person out with big bets on the turn and river just for them to call them all and turn over a set
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 279 Location: San Diego, CA
Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 11:15 pm Post subject:
Thanks for the post. I'm glad that there is actually somewhat of a demand for the conclusion to the Sit and Go series. I've been hesitant to write about the final stages of SnGs as I believe that "feel" and experience plays much more of an important role than strict strategy. However, I definitely still want to give some tips and plan to release it within the next couple of week. I'll certainly make a post when it's out.
Also, regarding your question on continuation bets, that sounds like another topic for an article! Unfortunately, I'll have to make you wait for my full advice. However, in short, I feel the continuation bet is much more suited for tournament play than cash games. Also, you can usually achieve the same effect with a 1/2 or 2/3 pot-sized bet rather than a full pot-sized bet. Of course, you should rarely bother with a continuation bet on an unimproved hand with several other players in the pot.
Regarding how far to take a continuation bet, you can be successful in continuing your representation of a big hand to the turn and/or river, but you need to have a strong read on your opponent and some sort of reason to believe that they can lay down a pretty good hand or that they're on a draw.. You definitely shouldn't try this against calling stations or truly bad players.
In the article, I would also like to give some advice on countering your opponent's continuation bets and also making false ones yourself to get paid off with big hands. Regarding
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 20 Location: Monterey Bay
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:10 am Post subject:
Sounds great. I have refined my requirements for continuation bets on Sportsbook, and I have been doing well in my small stakes sit n goes, but have been stooped short of the money a little more than I would like. I often miss the money by one seat only, which tells me that my bubble play needs some sharpening. I know you are a big fan of Harrington, maybe you can make playing the bubble the main topic of your last sit n go article.
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 2 Location: Los Angeles
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: Contnuation betting
I just signed up for your forum. I like the making the continuation bet as mentioned above, as I consider making a bet on the flop w/2 overs a semibluff. And of course it would be great to have a draw as well(AKs)etc.
However, if I am called on the flop I rarely fire barrel #2 now, as I have found in the stakes I play at many players will call all the way with marginal hands. Like you are saying a cont. bet is situational, like all things in poker. But I live by Mike Matusow Poker 101 now-NEVER BLUFF TO AN IDIOT!!
Also, there is a great play you can make against a preflop raiser called calling with nothing. Say you call a raise before the flop and the original preflop aggressor makes a bet you suspect is a continuation bet(I.E. 1/2-whole pot size)You've missed as well, but call anyway.(if there are multiple players this is much more risky) If he checks to you on the turn, Quickly bet into him. I get them to fold with this play 80% of the time I'd estimate. Daniel Negreanu calls it "Phantom Poker" LOL!